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>>Greetings and welcome to the Ayurveda report.
I’m Kailas. Today’s show we have Light Miller, she’s a 35-year experienced practitioner of
Ayurveda, internationally renowned author, healer and teacher and she’s also my teacher
and my guru and she’s like a second mom to me. Well I’m really honored to be able to
share her spirit with you today because she’s going to be addressing and she’s very important
to Ayurveda to suggest the encroachment of commercialism in Ayurveda and how Ayurvedic
education is being dealt with today. And does it really capture the essence of the ancient
teachings and what are those essential messages of the ancient teachings. So it’s gonna be
a fascinating interview for you guys. I’m really, really honored that you’re watching
and I’m glad to be able to share my guru with you.>>Commercialism tends to distort the original
message of whatever it be. So we’ve noticed that in Ayurveda too to that right now, there’s
a lot of commercial messages around Ayurveda. What are some of the things that you see about
that.>>Well I see people going to a spa, and they
call it Ayurveda when the practitioner doesn’t even know what Ayurveda is. That’s one of
the things I experienced. I see people, you know, buying herbs and they don’t know what
even they’re for. You know, I always have the patient in front of me, or the clients,
bring me a bag of what they’re taking and I say why are you taking that?>>Right, when you’re doing consultation.>>I always ask bring me what they’re taking,
allopathic medicine or whether they’re taking herbs, bring them all. And they say, “I don’t
know, I just bought it from the health food store”, you know. So a lot of people are buying
the stuff that they don’t even need. I mean, and you know, I try not to discourage them.
They bought it…>>And there are some health benefits –>>– but people are just buying. Sometimes
I’m amazed I said do you take all that, you know, and they say, “yes I do”. And I say,
“do you know about this herb?”, you know, and a lot of times they don’t even know why
they’re taking it.>>And sometimes it’s like, “Yeah I took that
one for a little while, and then I switched to this one, and then now I have a whole cupboard
full>>–Cupboard full of that, yeah.>>– and you can’t even get results if you’re
not doing the practice about it.>>Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if your not doing the
practice. So it’s, a lot of it is educating the public. Um, I think capitalism takes a
— has its place. I don’t know if you read that book by the people from Whole Foods but
I think there’s a place because we all need money, but to what degree do we sacrifice
ourselves to buy more, you know. And uh –>>And in terms of Ayurveda, the thing that
I’m thinking about is that Ayurveda is being sold to this group of, you know, this group
of “new consumer” of Ayurveda. In a sense it’s, it’s offering hope — but in a sense
it’s also playing on their suffering and their pain and the question for me is does it really,
do all these commercial things really represent the heart of Ayurveda? Or are they –>>No it doesn’t! It doesn’t because Ayurveda
is about living the science. Ayurveda is about watching your thoughts. Ayurveda is about
connecting with your spirit. Ayurveda is by rituals, daily rituals that you do for yourself.
Ayurveda is about making a meal with your family. You know, one of my greatest memories
with the boys is that — I work — I was a working mother, and I was always Kitcari in
my house when you came in, after three o’clock. And at night I would have them chop the vegetables.
That was a family thing we did. We would work together after they did their homework. We
work together in creating Kitchari. So there was food at the table when they came from
school. You know, so I think there are so many basic things that people can learn by
having the right practioner. We have that that instant Kitchari now. You put hot water
to it. I mean that loses the essence of what Ayurveda is –>>You kind of pioneered the use of the crock
pot, right? Ror cooking and making sure you>>I think– yeah, because you have food when
you’re home! You know, you have a dhal when you get home. And if a mother’s not home and
she’s working and she picks up the kids at three, four o’clock it could be made that
morning or the night before, even though Ayurveda doesn’t beleive in left-over foods. Sometimes
our society is geared to that… So I think –I’m also big on sauces. If you look in my
book, in my cook book, you saw we have forty different sauces. We have turmeric sauces,
we have cashew sauces, we have almond sauces. How simple it is to give your kids. And kids
love dipping. I don’t know a kid who doesn’t love to dip. And uh, I am sure they are out
there, but I haven’t met them.>>[joking] There’s two.>>Yeah. And all you have to do is steam some
vegetables! Do a well-spiced Ayurvedic sauce like a saag, and then put it over the food
and then love it, you know.>>All right.>>So, I think that my calling is to really
make mothers aware again of simple foods that they can make. Because everybody’s working,
everybody is busier, everybody’s –>>With the subject of money, you know one
of the things that’s happening now is that schools are marketing to people saying, “you
can have a career in Ayurveda” and it almost makes it, it almost presents it that there’s
going to be some kind of a lucrative opportunity to study Ayurveda. When–>>Well you know, Ayurveda is number eight
in the country as a profession right now. I don’t know if you realize that. When you’re
going to the internet, it’s one of the fastest growing professions. It’s number eight, through
the massage schools, more massage therapists are coming in, bringing a lot of people and
of course Depak Chopra has brought it popularity. It’s helping tremendously and um, I just hope
that the schools integrate a lot of what we’re talking about– making the ghee — I mean,
the kids love making ghee.>>But in terms of the motivation for practicing
Ayurveda, you know, just in my own experience, thinking of it as a career, that’s like a
little bit separate from the primal motivation and I was thinking in terms of commercialism.
You know commercialism is a, in a sense, representing the message about Ayurveda in a certain way.
So to paint Ayurveda as, “You’re going to do Ayurveda because it’s a career” is, in
my thinking, different than in my way of thinking– you’re gonna do Ayurveda because you’re moved
by compassion, you’re moved from the heart.>>Yeah. Well, I think that regardless of
what school you go to, there is a shift that takes place in people, and… they start searching.
They really… it’s in their heart. It’s a seed. It’s like, it’s a seed sometimes, and—
I think that money can be made — there’s nothing wrong making with money. Uh, I think
— I’m hoping that the schools really integrate… My only prayer is that really the schools
integrate some of the subjects we’re talking about in this interview, this reports of Ayurveda,
that people begin to remember it’s roots. What it came from. The simplicity of it. That’s
all I can say. It’s gonna be what it’s going to be, and all we can do is reach… You know,
I believe that it transforms people, one person at a time. And, for example I coudld do eight
Panchakarmas like I used to, but I narrowed it down to no more than two a week. So, you
know, I think that people get the essence of Ayurveda. You can do more; we can create
more transformation of people’s life. And it’s a process… and the fact that it’s getting
popularized and schools are — I just hope that the schools are in integrity.>>Uh-huh, right.>>You know, I mean, I just hope that each
State has some kind of, and that’s what I’m doing with my state, some kind of guidelines
with what Ayurveda it really is. And like I said before in my State we cannot call it
a medicine. It will never pass as a system. I want to call it a lifestyle coaching. A
lifestyle supporting people into counselilng each other you know and bringing harmony to
people’s life. You know we were thinking of slogans we can use: bringing harmony in people’s
life. So when you begin.. and bliss… because everybody wants to be happy. Whether they
know it or not, they want to be happy. And Ayurveda has those keys, the turn arounds,
that can take you away from that fast, active, pace that we… and to get into a simple life.
And we’re saying this. People are searching, and this is a great time. So, I cannot answer
what the schools will do. Uh, it is number eight in the country as a growing profession.
And whether it is good or bad, at this point I don’t know. I think it depends on the schools,
it depends on the training, it depends on the integrity of the teachers.>>Uh-huh.>>And what they’re after… and that’s an
individual karma.>>Right.>>I think if you bring Ayurveda, and this
is from my heart, if you bring Ayurveda and it’s, “you’re gonna make money, the school
is gonna make and more money, more money,” people are gonna get turned off.>>Uh-huh.>>You know, I know of schools where people
go to McDonalds for lunch, and you know, for me, it’s like [shocked expression] mindblowing…
not to mention names. I go to houses of teachers that have schools, and I have no place to
judge because everybody is where they are, and there’s not even a spice in that house!
And these are people that own schools! So, yes, it’s becoming extremely commercialized
and if you’re looking at Ayurveda as a profession, which I definitely think it’s wonderful — because
your reaching out, you’re counseling people into a better form of thinking, a better form
of living. You should check your schools – before you actually just blindly enroll. You should
get to know your teachers, you should get to know their backgrounds. Because, you know,
many schools are just pushing pills. “Take another pill”, you know, and I don’t practice
that way! And I noticed- you know, being one of my graduates, that I don’t encourage that.
I mean sometimes somebody has high blod pressure and you need something to [snaps her finger]
espeically if they want to get off medication. They cut themselves out of medication, they
have to have something ’cause that is gonna take a little more paying attention, and at
that point [snaps ]you gotta get that blood pressure down! But before you — it’s not
easy for an American to integrate diet as quickly — as some conscious person or yogis
can – there’s already living a yoga lifestyle, a vegetarian lifestyle. It’s hard for people,
’cause the’re used to their junk food and they’re fix! You know?>>What about fads, diet fads? You’ve seen
all of it! From the wheatgrass to the vegans, to the raws, to the Ayurvedic and –>>I think, again, integration. I think that
everybody, everything has a place. And as you find Ayurveda, you know that for the Vata
person eating raw foods is the worst thing that can happen. And it’s another commercialism.
And raw foods is one of the biggest commercialism: people creating [gestures in shock] blenders
– that create certain things – and uh… but I think people who really see what Ayurveda
is will discover it for themselves. And I think people, those who are open, will “get
it”, and those who don’t – it’s like everything else, you know? I think Ayurveda is here to
stay. I see it as a possibility of a national medicine, a basic medicine that people will
get paid eventually with. Um… I don’t know if I get to live it, you know, because of
my age, but I think that it will happen eventually. And, I don’t think you can do Ayurveda and
not wake up!>>Right, right. Eventually it.. opens the
heart.>>It opens up! It opens up! Because the books
are there! And whether the schools are good or not…>>Right.>>And not trying to crank [gesturing a cranking
motion]more practitioners – as a machine – “Graduate! We’ve graduated 40 this semester!”…>>Yeah…>>I think people will get that there’s more
to Ayurveda than that. And I see that happening, like I will tell you a story – I was thinking
about one particular person. She went to school, she went to a very fast learning school. She
graduated, she knew nothing! She found John Douillard to study… and she moved to Florida
and she found me. And the funny situation with her, her biggest calling, because she
felt that she couldn’t practice… she became a psychotherapist and now she’s integrating.
She just finished her internship with psychotherapy. She’s integrating Ayurveda into her Psychotherapy
practice. And she’s all about coaching people to let go, and heal from inside out, you know?
So, ’cause if you have so much trauma in your life, and you’re working with grief, she specialized
on grief –>>Oh, we’re talking about the toxic emotions!>>Exactly! Toxic emotions.>>Gotta detox those toxic emotions!>>Gotta detox those toxic emotions! So I
think if someone is really… I don’ think we’re really dilute it as much as people think
because it… it’s a spiritual medicine.>>Uh-huh.>>And if you read any of the books, and you
study into the books, it is the root of all medicine, including Allopathic medicine, as
you know.>>Right.>>So therefore, as people get that, something
is gonna sparkle in them. And there is also the law of karma. If you’re practicing from
grief, eventually it will fall down. Whether conscious capitalism exists or not. As it’s
been written in many of the newest books from Whole Foods, it’s conscious capitalism…>>Right.>>I think anything we enter into with consciousness,
we can create a change. Like I said sometimes I see people lost in Whole Foods, when they
don’t know what they’re doing and don’t even know why they’re there – but they begin to
spark a little light. A little addition, another way of dealing things. And I know a lot of
people who talk alot about whether they promote GMO’s and “you don’t know where to find their
GMO’s”, and … it’s at the beginning stages. It’s like taking baby steps. The baby doesn’t
…without crawling… the baby doesn’t walk. And it’s not good for the baby not to crawl.
So people are crawling into the health food stores, finding alternatives, and eventually
that will take them to something else.>>Right.>>So this commercialism eventually will create
some awakening. Probably not as much as you and I would like to see it, but it’s beginning
process of finding somebody like you and I, somebody that’s practicing from the heart.
Somebody that’s practicing with basic Ayurveda, you know, and I think eventually through the
organizations that are giving birth, we will have some form of standard teachings. It’s
gonna happen eventually.>>Because you cannot get away from the roots
in Ayurveda. I mean it’s basically simple. I mean it’s not complicated. So again, as
people — I mean there’s notting like putting herbs in your body! That’s going to create
a change in you!>>Yup, you feel it.>>I get a lot of patients with depression.
I have them inhale the oils, and immediately changes begin to happen because it touches
that limbic system. It awakens that part of us that is so asleep and so conditioned. It
begins to awaken, you know. Or, you put somebody on a steam… like, I always encourage people
when they do a massage to do a steam. And they experience the detoxification and you
know we practice with triphala internally. Yeah triphala through the mouth of is great.
But when you begin to put it in a basti, it creates awakening. So I think that slowly,
people like you and I and a lot of practitioners that I trained, will live that integrity.
It’s a matter of time. And I trust, process. ’cause we’re working our karma. We talked
about “why do we come here”… We come here to master ourselves. And in order to have
mastery you have to have obstacles. You’ve been with many teachers – Guru fire – every
teacher puts you to the test, to see are you really serious about going to another level
and that’s the essence of awakening. You have to be tested to see whether you pass the test
or not.>>That’s interesting, because the context
of education, where test are written before-hand … and the’re applied to a whole class … The
real question then, is then, is that test going to actually put that student to the
test, right? So if you have a guru where, or if you have your Ayurvedic guru, who can
really put you personally through the tests, then you’re going to emerge holding on to
the flame.>>Holding out to the flame, yeah. I do a
review with the students always before they take the test because it’s required by the
standards of NAMA and I’m a NAMA-approved school, and so I always test them and I always
remind them to come from the heart. In everything I suggest, when we answer the question, just
remember that the information is within you. So don’t work from your head, work from your
heart. And it’s amazing! You know, everybody passes the test! Even the most … people
that I feel that are stuck… they’re passing, and we do a review, and my main review is
“remember who they are”. “Remember who you are”. Remember the information’s within you.
You have heard over and over and over, and you know, it’s part of you. Because I have
to have… you know, I’m caught in the two worlds… I would love to do a program where
people come and just experience the garden and experience me working… and I have to
have, in order for people to come to me we have to have a NAMA approved school, you know?
So, we have — we always have that … to walk both paths … and you know, it’s part
of life.>>Right.>>It’s like we have to have a job to be able
to — we know the spirit provides, but if we don’t have a job we can’t make money you
know. And you know you’ve been there and –>>Providing is slow.>>Providing sometimes is slow, because you
kind of, you’re learning… your lessons, and learning how to… yeah. And it’s a constant
looking inside, constant looking inside, a constant vigilance, I call it vigilance. That’s
a word I use a lot in class. In order to be a good practitioner you have to live in vigilance
about your own life.>>Right. Right.>>Because healing begins with you.>>And from there, you can heal your family,
from there you can heal your clients, your community… and from there you can step out
into the world. But first you have to heal yourself. And it’s a constant vigilance, and
like, for me, I tell you on a daily basis I — This morning my son invited me to go
to the gym and for me taking a bath, and essential oil bath, oiling my body, is more important
than going to the gym, you know. So, just taking time for you, again, if there is anything
I say, it’s take time – even if 15 minutes – to do an Abhyanga. Even if it’s just that.
People say, “You know, you don’t understand, I live, I work in a … such a busy office”.
Hide in the toilet and close your eyes! And just breathe, and you know, go to the smelliest
place and do some pranayama! Step out!>>They’ll leave you alone in the bathroom.>>They’ll leave you alone in the bathroom.
Nobody’s gonna come there, you know! Or step out. I mean, take a walk and just close your
eyes someplace. There’s ways to balance this, create… this hectic life. There’s ways to,
ah… sometimes in the plane I just close my eyes and I shut everything down, and you
know… I mean, I travel a lot so I spend a lot of time in planes. This week alone I’m
flying from Trinidad to Puerto Rico to L.A! And I just close my eyes and I just shut the
world down, and that’s the gift that meditation is. Because once you learn to meditate, you
can shut the world any place you are.>>Right. Right. [Outro]>>From more content on Ayurveda, healing,
yoga, and Vedanta, follow Kailas. If you need an Ayurvedic consultation, I’m available internationally
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consultation by clicking here. And if you’re in Los Angeles, schedule an appointment. And
remember, I’m available for workshops, presentations and consultations in your city. I look forward
to hearing from you and I welcome you to my practice. So take these blessings for your
journey. Namaste.

One thought on “Ayurveda – a “New Career”?

  1. Nice to see someone talking about this. It's also not just commercialism that is the problem, but completely dumbed down information. Ayurveda is way more complicated than people make it out to implement proper, and there really aren't any quality programs out there in the US these days on a clinical level. I mean you can't even practice real pancha karma in the US even though all these people call it such. 

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