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Taking Charge of Your Health


hey everyone it’s dr. Jory and welcome
to the hybrid health podcast my goal is to bring you the best minds in health
and fitness can help you live a better healthier life. In this
first-ever hybrid health podcast we talked to dr. salma naturopath about
what it takes to become a naturopathic doctor what kind of tests could you take
blood tests food sensitivity tests urine tests the interpretation of those
results different supplementation like vitamin b12 vitamin d testosterone i
went a little bit of a rant about peanut allergies we check in with my friend
from botswana dr. stefan has some funny things to say we tackle the
controversial topic of homeopathy some other topics as well to help you live a
healthier life you may find that we are a little bit stiff in the first few
minutes and as we get our flow on the conversation is great from then on so
thanks for watching or listening and enjoy the show
hey everyone my guest today is dr. Salma the naturopathic doctor here in
Toronto dr. Salma thanks for joining me today thanks for having me this is the
first ever hybrid health podcast yes and honored and I wanted to start with what
got you into becoming a naturopathic doctor basically grew up in a very
medical household everyone in my family is kind of in the allopathic medicine
field I wanted to do something all that for one second yeah some viewers may not
know what allopathic means allopathic is a kind of a traditional
medicine that we practice every day you go to your medical doctor for
interestingly enough we call it traditional but actually naturopathic
medicine Ayurvedic medicine traditional Chinese medicine those are more
traditional that’s what we kind it a little just to avoid
confusion yeah everyone my house is like a doctor or a pharmacist or a dentist or
a surgeon Wow no but I wanted to learn a form of medicine that I found was more
applicable to me in my life and something I can use and all my friends
and my family and so I found that naturopathic medicine offered a whole
other world of modalities that I need know existed all throughout school so it
was exciting for me to kind of find that other side of medicine and I just fell
in love with it did you know since you were a child that you were gonna be like
a doctor of some sort I wanted to go in the health field in what capacity I
still wasn’t sure so you know first I kind of thought I was gonna do medicine
and then during undergrad I was doing my bachelor science I thought I was gonna
do more Pharmacy and then I worked in the pharmaceutical regulatory industry
put a little bit and I didn’t love it and that’s when I started to think okay
now I kind of want to see what else is out there and when I happened to stumble
on that medicine and school and the
qualifications and stuff I’m really impressed
okay so tell me a little bit about how you become a naturopathic doctor a lot
of viewers are and listeners are not going to really know what it takes to
become a naturopathic doctor yeah so you you need to
have an undergradraduate degree it doesn’t have to be in science but many
of the practices are science so so what percent of the students there we
probably have a science background I think probably 75% and then and in a
quarter of the people would be there with like engineering backgrounds we had
a couple people who have more backgrounds so it was diverse primary
yeah anatomy or physiology or biochemistry organic chemistry all
that kind of stuff and there is no
entrance exam you just have to kind of apply with your prerequisites and finish
your degree and then you get into the school in Toronto and
others in Canada yeah there’s one in BC and I believe there’s one in Calgary and
then I think that’s it and then others are in the US so so obviously I live in
Toronto so this is perfect for me and I was really impressed because that
program is a doctorate so you graduate with a bachelor’s
bit of naturopathy and that was appealing to me of course because it was like very
established and how many years then does it take total let’s say to become a
naturopathic doctor so if the very least would be 8 years because
undergrad which is four years and then you’ve got the actual program which is
designed to be four years however I’ll like I would say a lot of students go part
time because the course load is actually quite large like I remember in my third
year we had between 10 and 14 final exams at a time there’s a lot of
similarities to the Chiropractic College where same rules apply
pretty much minimum eight years you know past high school to become a
chiropractor right we don’t have a part time option so it’s four years straight
after you finished your degree I did find what I didn’t go part-time
because it was just so much school when I found like to just be finished with it
sooner rather than later yeah we got the offer like you can do it part-time so
that you have about seven courses at a time and and then of course there’s also
a bridge program for like md’s medical doctors if they want to have an ND MD
license yeah and I think I heard a few people say that the
Chiropractic College then they did that or vice versa yeah I believe
at the Canadian College of naturopathic medicine if when you graduate you
can do one more year of chiropractic just chiropractic school and you can get
a license and now to manage physiology and anatomy so it
repeats itself. okay and what would be one of your favorite classes that
you remember I would say probably acupuncture was my favorites was a close second those are both really
fun and you practice acupuncture yeah yeah and just to give a little
background I was trying to hire a naturopath to come into my clinic
here and took a little while to find the right one and then I found you and I’m
glad that I did yes you are a great fit for this clinic that we have here we
also have two massage therapist and yeah you really round out the team so happy
to have you here yeah I know I love it it’s been great so far
so then with acupuncture what do you find why would someone want
acupuncture or what are some of the benefits
I don’t do acupuncture myself and that’s one of the reasons I wanted to bring you
on you so that you could provide acupuncture because there’s definitely
demand for it yeah so basically we’re trained in any practice
acupuncture there’s the normal kind of muscles acupuncture
which means that we’re treating joint pain muscle pain joint stiffness that
kind of thing and you’re just putting needles kind of locally as you need them
and then we also do traditional Chinese medical acupuncture which you’re using
all kinds of different meridians and different points that will treat many
different like illnesses I might treat somebody with migraines I
could treat somebody with digestive issues kind of do both so somebody comes to me
they might be there just for maybe some back pain injury especially at the
gym or they might be coming for more regular acupuncture to treat one of
their conditions right okay and other than acupuncture what else should
people expect I guess they came to see you so when you see an naturoathic doctor
for the first time your typical initial intake is going to be between an hour
and two hours and you’re just going to go through every aspect of your health
care past medical health history of course your chief concerns and what your
goals are your health what you want to address and then you’re going to go
through things like family history sleep diet energy kind of digestion we kind of
do a review of systems so make sure though yeah and then we made
you certain we might take vitals of me might do certain physical exams if we
think that they’re permanent and we might requisition bloodwork so there’s
quite a few things we do on the first visit and then by the end we basically
put together a treatment plan that’s very tailored to each patient so it’s
like very rare that I would do the same treatment plan in two patients
they’re usually different some way that’s good yeah I’ve never been fond of
the cookbook approach to therapy where you just kind of do the exact same thing
for each patient yeah it really should be specialized it
should and I think that is the naturopathic medicine was that approach
because you know if you go senior medical doctor they don’t really have
the time or the resources to spend that kind of time and energy with you to
figure out you know your whole picture and the way regular medicine is taught
in school is very much an algorithm of how you’re going to diagnose and how
you’re going to treat and it’s there’s just one way usually and you
rule things in their home and then I’ll follow up with
every patient so and and that makes sense within our medical system that
they have to kind of follow that model but I was never a fan of that for
individualized care and I think you know within the aging population and
especially in Canada it’s worth it to put that time and energy into the whole
person and figuring out how you can help them with all of their complaints and
all of their illness and their goals and everything in one
capacity the other thing I liked about you dr. Salma is that when I interviewed
you you were saying that you don’t see yourself as replacing a medical doctor
yeah we all have our strengths and that’s the way I appeal to I have my
strengths and my expertise and if it’s beyond my expertise I’m referring
out to a medical doctor I’m afraid – yeah naturopath I’d send them over to
wherever so it’s good to have the ability to realize when it’s out of your
scope absolutely those that like it perfect when you’ve got you know every health
professional helping in the patient’s care coordinating that we work with a
lot of regular general practitioners referring both to them and from them so
I have patients come in all the time telling you they don’t have a family
doctor and they just go to a walk-in when when they need some public and in
front of healthcare and I always tell them no you should have a family doctor
or one person that you know is familiar with your overall health in your history
and if I think that you know you need to be referred to a specialist they’re the
ones that ultimately to make that happen so if I referred to actually many
patients now to a family doctor I know of a few they’re accepting patients and
we work together in that regard so that the patients are having all the care
they need rather than just kind of divided against different practitioners
when working together so speaking of care I came to see you as I
recently hit age 40 and so I’ve been doing a lot of health tests just you
know get make sure everything’s cool yeah nothing that I think is wrong with
me but it’s kind of funny actually yeah I was doing two urine tests
yes and my seven-year-old son is like dad why are you doing the test are you
sick like yeah at all concerned I said sometimes you do tests when you’re
really healthy – oh so let’s talk about this urine test that was crazy yeah so that’s
a new one so I work with Rocky Mountain analytics and they’re a company that
just specialized naturopathy testing so are they in BC yes and we of course we like
regular blood work which we did that also that exact list so this one was a test that is usually done actually via
saliva so if it was testing things like cortisol I think it was testing
testosterone it was also doing melatonin so it was doing a bunch of
different hormones that you kind of make in a little kind of way so in the
morning you know you’re gonna make more cortisol helps you wake up yeah and so this is telling us all
things about how your adrenal glands are functioning they’re these little glands
and sit on top of your kidneys and they’re responsible for all those stress
hormones and for a lot more than than that – I mean melatonin that’s your most circadian rhythm so it’s good to see if your numbers are in good
health by doing certain tests now this is what mind you is well Anna
like that a doctor would recommend necessarily because it’s more just
trying to see where you’re at yeah I just want to establish some
baseline exactly so that if you do have a problem later on you can compare to
obviously right and that’s what I always recommend to my patients is I’ll say you
know have you had blood taken in the past little while some of them were like
long it’s been like 10 years like well like a physical exam from a
medical doctor may not always be that great it’s not going to show too
many things but the blood tests are valuable to do our objective and we’re
beginning to just have a baseline yeah but if something does happen later like so I already see how that’s
changing over time some people have you know just lower rate like values in
certain ranges and that’s actually normal for that but how are you going to
know that if you don’t examine the way we do these tests like that is why we should
do routine blood work so back to the urine test so this is urine yeah this was a new one that they’re they’re
doing which is urine it supposed to be more specific insensitive or yeah
exactly so we were trying that one out I’m going to try it and then
they use them for the reference ranges now because you mentioned the
like stress hormones cortisol your adrenal gland yeah
as we know there’s a lot of stressed out people there nowadays and some some
people may have heard of adrenal fatigue I’ve heard some people say what does
that mean but what I wanted to say is I know this on the urine test there was a
form a to fill out each time I did a test than it would say have you
been under stress in the past like couple hours yeah and it’s not your
results so I was watching Netflix and we were watching black mirror yeah we
watched the zombie like one were stressed
so I don’t know if that’s going to affect my test. I mean I didn’t say that I was
stressed yeah because I’m tough but see that thing that I would expect we would
probably maybe see in the blood before the urine because like as it’s happening
right then in there I don’t know if you’re in test two a necessarily pick
that up right away I think it’s giving us more like a general snapshot of the
adrenal health with your urine rather than a specific like this you know five
minutes of stress released these neurotransmitters or these hormones into
my blood and we think that I was wondering – because my daughter
was screaming at me yet three-year-old daughter like that’s kind
of stress to me yeah well I think that would be compounded selves over time and
then we would see a new reading so the interesting to see what this comes up
with and the reason that I wanted to do this urine test is as men approach age
40 it is very common for testosterone levels to start to fall a little bit and
especially if you have kids and it’s an interesting thing because when a man has
a child then you know you have to sort of have the paternal or even say
maternal where you’re just really caring for your kids right and that can
actually decrease your testosterone all right yeah I’m you know I’ve been
wanting to just check make sure it’s all good I don’t have any reason to believe
it’s not but you know it’s good to gain to establish the baseline and see where
you’re at yeah because testosterone is very important hormone for men to
maintain lean muscle mass density stuff it’s responsible for the same stuff it’s
just we need a bit different obviously concentrations but
it is important for good bone health and and and even cognitive function and
there’s no shame in doing some testosterone replacement if your levels
are below what this should be I’m definitely not advocating taking
steroids anabolic steroids to build muscle no I’m just saying that if you do
your blood test and you find that your testosterone is really low then you want
to at least bring it up to the optimal level right there’s no sense suffering
you know yeah with low levels if you don’t have to actually taking anabolic
steroids actually to creases it does yeah so I don’t have to keep that
at all it just like you said if you look at say bodybuilders or there’s some
ultimate fighters as well right we’re taking steroids for long periods of time
and of course they act normal just levels but then you’re cranking up your
testosterone intake which basically whenever you do that your body just says
I guess we don’t need it I guess you’re testosterone isn’t needed anymore so then you just
stop making it naturally then when you go off the steroids now your tests are
low yeah that makes them more likely to want to go back on the juice so
you can see how the cycle gets reinforced like goes lower place it and yes so yeah
so that’s why I did the urine test but it was crazy it was just like – it was
48 hours yeah I got a little stressed just even reading the
instructions on you know what time do I have to do it but that’s good in the
future because they also have to solve every one so I guess what they’re going
to do is kind of compare which one like this one that will be
more accurate but obviously if it’s going to be easier to do more patients
gonna opt for that I would recommend they do it if they want to find that
stuff out about testosterone levels and then we did a food sensitivity test yeah
big one yeah talk about that for a little bit because it seems to be
generating a lot of buzz everyone is interested in this yeah so the food
sensitivity test basically what it does and a lot of people asking you know is
this like an allergy test right anything no it’s not an allergy to your gut
it’s not like that you’re breaking the skin it’s totally do so if you
go to a regular an allergist that your doctor to because you know you
might have you beginning reaction Hives like your throats closing you
they’ll send you to an allergist there’s a prick your skin where you know
allergens and they see which ones you react to now that’s what we call an
IgE immediate sensitivity reaction that’s like right away that could be
fatal that’s when you see the symptoms
manifest immediately basically and so IgE is the name of the antibody that
your body’s making in response to being exposed to that system that component
yes so what food sensitivity test is is
testing IgG which is a delayed sensitivity reaction so you know you’re
not going to get symptoms that are going to be kind of like life or death they’re
not gonna happen immediately so you might see what kind of things like
irritable bowel syndrome you might see things like people are having
constipation diarrhea they might have like the brain fog they might have skin
conditions that flared up you would see things like psoriasis a lot of
autoimmune diseases we notice that food sense – these can lead to like trickling
trigger flare-ups so these are more chronic things then happen maybe like
five to seven days post exposure to a food okay yeah it’s longer because your
body’s taking longer to like those IgG any bugs are being made slower ID use
fine but I’m taking IgG testing so that’s this test is basically doing it’s
taking your blood but they might give you requisition you go to a life labs
they take your blood then they test yes however many foods like we want to
test depending on your diet and then it will come back and they’ll say which
ones are elevated for sensitivity and red which is red which ones are
borderline which is yellow and which ones work so
bad I which is green so and then these been a lot of people asking you know how
accurate is this kind of test is and I always say I think the best way to look
at it is is a great jumping-off point that’s what I was thinking yeah it’s
just to give you some involvement you know you should consider yeah like when
you are truly sensitive to is probably going to fall somewhere in that red or
the yellow category so sometimes it’ll come back for all kinds of different
things and it doesn’t mean that that you can’t have those things anymore it means
that what you’re truly sensitive to is somewhere there so what we’re going to
do is we’re gonna eliminate all the foods that are rather than yellow for
about six weeks and then slowly elimination diet it yeah then it becomes
an elimination diet then we’re going and then you’re going to reduce from one by
one every two to three days and you’ll see which ones trigger symptoms whatever
except that you were experiencing before it comes back probably was behind
it but then again it doesn’t mean that you will never be able eat those foods
basically you’re going to cut don’t offending foods that you you know
determined to be sensitive cut them out for about six months or so and then
won’t be insensitive to them you can start reproducing up in a horrible way
your diet and you won’t have like they won’t even test on the red anymore
that’s time to do it yeah and a whole point is that you have to keep
your diet varied because it tends to show up in the yellow or the red
that totally makes sense because my elevated foods are milk (cow) which I
don’t like milk however I do eat large amounts of yogurt yeah then there’s what
else is on here that I found interesting so I don’t have a lot of elevating foods
but cashew nuts I love cashews I eat those quite frequently and we’ve got
wheat which yeah we yeah those things would be smart to avoid yeah and that’s
thing people like this is a very typical result all the triple bonds like
are on here too egg whites and peanuts is in the yellow which I have a natural
peanut butter every morning with play over so I’ve been wanting to get off
yogurt anyway just for ethical reasons and
friend of mine who is going to be a podcast Craig pointed me towards
some alternatives so yeah I found that interesting so I’m thinking oh I
modified my breakfast so the witness substitutes now which is that’s great
you should substitute something that was in the green that wasn’t too reactive
but then you’ve got to make sure that that becomes varied as well right yeah
right so the whole point is and we kind of know this that our diets are supposed
to be varied because that’s kind of how humans give all we know because
different things are in season at different times different animals like so our diet was dependent on the earth
nature whereas today we’re like go to the grocery store you do the same thing
all the time so and that’s really what the test is telling us that you know
major your diet very if you do that you won’t have access to me all right
okay well that brings us to a little segment here is I like to rant about
different things that we know that yeah so I did
we’re on the subject of allergens and peanuts yeah okay so I have two kids
seven and three and of course most people know this peanut ban in school
so I can’t bring anything in that has peanuts and I completely understand
if there is some child who this you know could get anaphylactic reaction could
potentially die yeah terrible reaction so I I totally understand why they would
put a ban on right what I don’t understand
yeah there’s a couple of things one is why are peanuts so special because there
are other allergens that can cause them to die if you get exposure to them right
like my son can bring in shellfish to school right so
shellfish allergies yeah so why are peanuts banned so that kind of bugs
me the other thing is that science is showing that early exposure to allergens
is best yeah so what’s like our kids when they were around I’m trying to
remember things around eight months old we exposed them to peanut butter in a
very small amount and it’s like I always joke about it like make sure there’s gas
in the car we can get to the hospital I have the benadryl yeah ready to go I didn’t
know anybody in my classes that had a peanut allergy so I feel like it’s getting worse and worse
Oh only because we’re trying to put our kids in the bubble and protect them from
the peanuts yeah yeah it could be bad I think it’s getting worse because of the
ban it’s definitely getting worse we know about right but we also know that
like these allergies are linked to a few things
you know that for example there’s an association between more like higher
allergies like things like asthma and emphysema in kids that were born
c-section yeah kids that were for sure not breastfed right because your
immunity bacterial exactly yeah select human beings evolve in the presence of
parasites and whatever and I’m almost overnight evolutionarily speaking
they’re just gone everything’s gone there any sparrow in the Western world
yes so and that’s where we’ve seen you know all these allergies all these
autoimmune diseases which is just both basically your immune system saying I
have nothing to fight so I’m gonna pick the thing with myself or with a peanut
or something that shouldn’t really be really that big of a deal yeah so your
body doesn’t have anything else to fight off yeah so there’s really there’s
really cool theories I mean they still have to like study this but it makes a
lot of sense because this is something we’re seeing in the Western world all
right won’t see this kind of no sleep allergies like that you know Southeast
Asia or Africa you’re not see magnitude right and I always
encourage my kids to get dirty like we’ll play in the backyard and ya know
you’ll see my three-year-old look grab some dirt and start putting it
in her mouth I’m not freaking out no a lot of parents watch your hands
now obviously you gotta watch it raccoon feces items like that but yeah kids should be getting dirty but I mean it’s probably best get
dirty in the forest right yeah that’s making things worse so that’s that’s
rant number one all right so let’s move on from that test too let’s talk about
we did a blood test as well yeah and one of the reasons I want to do that I
wanted to check my vitamin D levels yeah and I’ll probably say vitamin D has
another topic another time share I could go on and on but out indeed I have some
rants food some lights and all that went into another time but we are in
January here in Toronto yeah and there is no ultraviolet radiation that will
give us a vitamin D synthesis right now have to wait till around March or so you
have to start getting it back again from summer right so I don’t actually
supplement right now with but indeed I do however another sort of controversial
topic I do use tanning beds but very limited amount of time so although maybe
five minutes yeah and the stand up and that’s another topic going to talk about
another time but I do not get even close to burnt and I only use it because I
know that there is some Vit D since it’s not as good as the Sun of
course but I’ve been doing that so I want to see and I only use it once or
twice a week max I wanted to see if my vitamin D levels are kind of hold up
right because I think without that then they’re definitely low yeah less
supplement yeah I mean yes we did do it and you were in a normal but you wanna
lower lower end I mean the thing is that I just it’s so like it’s scary to
just kind of tell everyone to go and try to take these honestly oh yeah some
people have to think if they have no melanin which is the protein they have
very light skin very good but I mean for most people like that it the best thing is to go walk outside and
just like a good ten minutes and don’t want you to add like something
at some amount of you expose should be close to enough to like maintain your
levels and a healthy but what season are you in the winter
that yeah this is a winter you can’t get it but November – yeah October to March
if you live in like the line that latitude yeah I need the other the other
Vit D option of course so it also
affects your mood so that is yeah and that’s another topic I’ll be talking
about on a future podcast because I believe in
different wavelengths of light and actually the sunlight is the best
because it’s got all full spectrum right okay well let’s move on from vitamin D
and there was I think you were saying my b12 was in the lower yeah – it would
still like thank you I think it was within normal though you haven’t become yeah but I think it was in the lower so that’s a classic one of the
classic things that that when they do but work for there is a very watery like
the reference is huge I think it’s something like a hundred
it’s really wide and so if you’re anywhere in there you know your GP is
happy like that’s where we like to have it at a much narrower range we actually
like to have it over but 500 are over not because you know it’s dangerous to
be lower but because you might see some symptoms of b12 deficiency under 500 we
notice as much mass so things like little mood things like low energy that
could just be explained by having lower b12 levels so I never forgot I had a
patient who came to ask my opinion because she had very little mood our
doctor was gonna put her on an antidepressant and fluoxetine which had
a lot of side so she just wasn’t sure about it and I said okay well you know
let’s just do a basic blood work but she hadn’t done and b12 was about it was
like 120 it was on the lower lower end of normal right we started testing that
it was just try some b12 shots first just because yeah it’s totally safe and
expensive and there was another side of us so we did a few me 12 shots and it’s
like she said she changed to a different back to her old self
no no any investments required now of
course I always even happen but it just shows you how you know it’s best to do
the least invasive treatment possible first right then move up as you need so
I have a great segway of the b12 here now I have a colleague good really
good friend of mine dr. Stefan from Botswana so this segment is going to be
dr. Stefan from Botswana is providing us random tips thoughts he sometimes goes
on rants as well very intellectual guy and he’s had practice he’s a
chiropractor he works for he’s got a clinic they’re
run by world spine care areas that don’t really
have access to so anyway he has this you know it just worked over sometimes I
was less he says hey Jory you ever feel guilty the next morning after a night
with a few too many drinks well it might not be because you did something stupid
it might actually be the consequence of an acute drop in vitamin b12 alcohol can
affect the absorption of b12 as well as the storage in your liver a big night of
drinking can cause the drop in your b12 loads this affects many aspects of
nerve health and there are some anecdotal cases that suggest this can
have a profound effect on mood it may even be associated with feelings of
guilt so if you feel guilty after a big night you don’t necessarily need to
apologize to anyone except your liver the best way I can think of to apologize
to your liver would be to eat something else’s liver no just go easy on the
Chianti yeah drinking no not at all but but I know so basically you know to
metabolize alcohol delivered where’s number is about an intrinsic factor yes
yeah it’s a little cloudy from 15 years yeah so basically when you drink you
stop that source you know a number of B vitamins and so the next day you know
hangover feeling you know people leave that’s because they’re dehydrated and
drink enough water which could be could contribute but really the root cause is
because they’re only stopped and 12 so oftentimes taking like IV complex okay
interesting something that I’ve always found interesting no natural naturopathy
yeah is the homeopathy part of naturopathy yeah can you expand on
homeopathy yeah I think there’s a lot there not so not all natural paths are
homeopathy okay some natural products may have also done okay but the not all
natural paths practice homeopathy God okay yeah so we are trained in in it’s
cool because it’s you know also so you have to be familiar with and
basic stuff it’s a modality that we are trained to offer okay but by no means is
it the base of naturopathic medicine okay I haven’t used it once since I
graduated and just explain kind of what it is it’s kind of a concept of treating
somebody with our remedy that would make those same symptoms in an otherwise
healthy person so here which is a weird concept but for example if you came to
me you were jittery and couldn’t sleep and I gave you caffeine right because
those that cause of caffeine would cause those symptoms but I’m giving them to
you these you have those symptoms which okay fine you can get on board with that
maybe but then after that the more we dilute it the more potent our remedy is
which is you should make it more strangely
yes No can I jump in and try and explain what my understanding is I’ve said this
to a few people when they asked me maybe I’m completely wrong here so maybe help
yes but is it true that it would be like say the example you gave let’s say with
caffeine yeah that you would take like one drop of caffeine put it in a glass
then take one one drop of that put in another glass and water yes take another
drop put in another one so by the end of it the idea is that
there’s like one molecule or like a really small number of molecules smaller
than atoms number really technically exist anymore right but the concept is
every drop but water is taking the energy profile of the remedy and
amplifying it every time or something so it’s confusing part of it is rather than
just treating somebody acutely for what they have we would basically treat them
according to their constitution which means you know you prove that with all
these physical symptoms we’re gonna spend a long time hours kind of figuring
out your physical symptoms or emotional symptoms of everything and then I’m
going to remedy that like best fits your constitution so in a way when I was
wandering I thought kind of like astrology so you know
you’re a big Capricorn or more like a Scorpio or like whatever you sound like
this many these if there’s like thousands of these and so it’s like that
it’s like a rigorous science to figure out what you are and that’s the best I
could explain it all right yeah so I don’t practice it okay no you no
disrespect to knapsacks hoodoo and patients who do and there’s no denying
that some people could get results from that yeah I don’t there’s a very
powerful thing we call it the Seaboard something to be taken lightly
it can’t work if someone believes that something will work yeah would you which
should be explored in itself as a concept for sure a nice thing but I
don’t know if I feel some things are hard to do study to prove what I think I
think that would be one that you could you couldn’t double-blind they have
anyhow yeah but you also remember like to pick someone’s Constitution or ever
they supposed to sit down with them and collect their information and that’s
therapeutic in and of itself right somewhere in there it’s asking you all
your symptoms I’m with you so that’s gotta do something
well yeah I don’t practice it but I if patients abused it and they like it
that’s fine not to yeah exactly and I’m not okay
we’re not dissing me no I know far be it from me as a naturopath I just have
never really understood how that could help really yeah but anyway if you
believe it works and they can work with you right so that’s for sure okay yeah a
lot really yeah all right let’s move while we’ve got one last topic that I’d
like to ask you about which is recently you got trained IV therapy what’s
called yes tonight my turn to do IV therapy so yeah i mean basically
of IV like infusions that have vitamins minerals nutrients amino acids so we do
that there’s like a bunch of different you know conditions and I remember just so there’s other things to let me might use things like
magnesium if somebody might do things like liver detox and yeah can you do okay but I think it used to be up until recently
iron used to be muscular injections and I think all right well you’ll have to
try that out on me because I’m always open to experimenting on my body with
different health yeah things to try it you know reach optimum fitness
all right well we’re gonna wrap this up and I’ll just
ask you dr. salma maybe like some random tip
that you could give our audience a way to live a healthier life or you could be
anything because the nutrition of it could be you know yeah exercise it could
be anything anything I need something that’s not so common that people would
worry that much about I would say like I just did your daily routine
that most people don’t do that I like a lot of patience is just having like an
you wake up in the morning having like a lukewarm lemon water
sounds kinda like whatever but it actually makes a big difference because
first thing in the morning you want to leave out your adrenal glands and
we’ve got the cortisol wake up the digestive system and lemons have lots of
different nutrients in them that do that and things that are involved in pathways
so of course having it not cold because if it’s cold it’s not gonna wake up
right so you want to kind of get the whole digestive system and
adrenals up and ready for the day so first thing you do in the morning like
half of that loss of water and then brushing your teeth whenever then having
breakfast that can make actually a very big difference especially people would
like to indigestion bloating constipation like those kind of it’s a
great for everything try to get happen yeah all right and how can our audience
which you are you know social media or yeah on websites anything you want to
play my brand is called Medivis and so basically and you have a website and
what social media I can find me on Instagram and Twitter at
medivisdoc I just post like some tips and
right uh yeah well thank you so much thanks for joining me in
the first-ever hybrid help podcast if you have any comments for us that you
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