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so if I could have like one take-home
message that hopefully resonates you know for this podcast and every podcast
that we do is take action quickly and soon don’t wait the common mistake
people make is they just wait too long now we’ll we can get into some of the
details about the different forms of lung cancer and stuff later on but it’s
a it’s a very serious type of cancer because if you would look at it as by
itself lung cancer is probably the number one cause of cancer-related
deaths for all people so I’m asked all the time by patients what’s the
difference between personalized medicine and traditional medicine and in
traditional medicine there’s a singular approach so you have cancer a and for
cancer a here is a standard of care treatment and after you go through the
standard of care treatment and it doesn’t work typically there’s not a
plan B there’s not another option so then patients are told hey there’s
nothing else that can be done and so then they’re convinced that a there’s no
hope and we can’t do anything else now when a contrast step in a personalized
approach that we have a cause n time we’re gonna measure all kinds of details
within your body and want to find lots of areas that we can actually improve
your health and then indirectly by improving those areas we’re gonna help
you do a better job at fighting cancer so where someone else would say hey
there’s nothing that can be done we’re gonna say hey there’s lots of
opportunity here to improve your health and make sure that you have a better
quality of life so that you’re able to function and live life under your own
terms and not just waste away in a bed and hospice somewhere and watch
everything go by you as time passes on so if you or a loved one has been
diagnosed with cancer and you’re looking to get help I strongly encourage you to
go to cause Entercom and fill out the form at the bottom of the page and find
out for yourself how we can help you wave to everyone doctor Tom the Facebook
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dive into the show this is ask dr. Tom dr. Tom is Thomas include on he’s the
founder and CEO of cause into wellness and the cousin to cancer treatment
center in Scottsdale Arizona from working with NFL MLB MMA world-class
athletes and even the White House dr. Tom’s reputation of personalized
medicine and cutting-edge technologies have put him on the map for caring for
some of the most powerful people in the world making him one of the most
sought-after health care professionals of our time
and he’s with us live from Arizona hello and good day to you sir hey Matt good
morning how you feeling what’s happening over there you look healthy and good and
I mean you always do but I think the lighting there also really is is
complimentary to everything you got going on oh that’s good to know because
normally we’re from a dark cave like office it looks
like um I’m going downhill fast so it’s nice little oh I look a little healthy
you look you look awesome you we can also see more of you and you know one of
the things that I don’t think people that that know you as well as some of us
have gotten to know you may now realize is you are formidable you you’re a power
lifter and a I would I was gonna say former strongman
but I don’t think there’s any former about it and we’re seeing it now in this
view can you just share with people that don’t really know and have not gotten
past the doctor stuff and the cause enta stuff and the fact that you’re you know
a scientist and an author what what you do physically and what you’ve competed
in over the years that’s really sort of set you apart from just anybody else in
a lab coat sure so um I came from an exercise background so I was an exercise
physiology laboratory and when I was there we did all kinds of studies on
strength training and people and then I got really into lifting weights so I
started competing and I was pretty strong strong enough to be successful at
a state level a national level and then compete at a world championship level
and I met lots of really cool people and they got me into do an Olympic lifting
and powerlifting and strongman lifting and I had lots of fun doing that but I
got a crazy strong I guess you might say there’s videos of me dead lifting trucks
and lifting giant stones once a lot of people say yeah I saw you pulling a
tractor-trailer or an airplane or some other you know large device and so a lot
of times people go what the heck is this like muscle-bound geek kind of do to
help me with my cancer or my other health issues and the reality is that
exercise is a very useful tool to help people fight any disease but it’s got to
be used correctly our patients all get dramatically stronger they add muscle
they lose body fat they did they could get rid of wheelchairs and walkers now
we don’t have them competing in strongman competitions but we do have
them realizing that if you get stronger you could handle the stress of the
disease much better and now they’re better capable of handling some
treatments or some other strategies to actually kill cancer and make it through
like they could come through the other side and it looked great they don’t have
hair loss and they don’t have a lot of symptoms that sometimes people report
the experience when they do standard of care type treatments well I’m glad that
we have you today and and I’m glad that you’re watching this so wherever you are
on Facebook on Twitter on YouTube wherever in the world you are and I’d
like to encourage you to share this video with someone in your family today
whether they have cancer whether they’ve been diagnosed with any disease whether
they think they’re healthy or not healthy everybody should at least become
aware of dr. Tom and what he’s talking about in some of the things we’re gonna
discuss and here’s why this and we’re gonna dive into this news headline a
little bit more in detail a little bit later on but this really jumped out at
me and even if you don’t know something’s wrong with you you you could
have something going on and here’s an example there’s a newlywed the story
came from the Daily Mail a newlywed couple went got married and just four
days into the honeymoon the husband passed away and he died of lung cancer
didn’t have any idea he had lung cancer didn’t have any idea he was sick didn’t
have any idea because he doesn’t smoke he isn’t involved in any risky behavior
and it just kind of came out of nowhere and so we’ll get into the details of
that article and in that case in a little bit but I just want to use that
to encourage people that they should be paying attention to staying healthy
because staying healthy is better than getting sick and then having to recover
the topic that we’re gonna ask dr. Tom about today is lung cancer and before we
assume that we know what lung cancer is because I always thought it was from
people smoking cigarettes let’s ask dr. Tom what can you tell us a
lung cancer so quite a bit so one I spent some time preparing an outline
because the data that is out there from let’s say the World Health Organization
versus the American Cancer Society there’s different perspectives that are
shared and so there’s some things globally and there’s versus some things
let’s say within the United States and since we do have people that are
international that listen to us I want to make sure I kind of shared like both
sets of information so a couple things I’ll say relative to United States
there’s about two hundred thousand deaths per year or we should say cases
per year that mostly will lead to deaths of lung cancer in the United States in
most cases the the overwhelming thing that could have been done is if people
had routine examinations and evaluations by a medical professional they probably
could have had that lung cancer detected at a very early stage and then be
treated successfully unfortunately lung cancer is one of those cancers that you
don’t even know you have it until it’s too late
and there’s many famous doctors that have gone on record of saying by the
time we see blood in your lungs or I’m sorry if you’re coughing up blood
it’s too late there’s nothing we’ve been able to figure out to help you so the
main point right now is you got to be seeing a doctor on some regular basis to
get competent examinations and evaluations now what I’d like to do is
contrast that by what we hear from people all the time that come into our
Center what we hear over and over again is something like this well I was always
healthy and then next thing I know I had stage four cancer and that’s a general
statement we hear for all cancers but what they’re not realizing is that
cancer doesn’t just happen overnight in some cases some of these cancers are
very slow growing so it may take decades for them to actually get to stage 4 so
that means from you know 20 to 40 years this cancer was growing in their body
and they never knew it so they’re simply saying they were healthy because they
never went to a doctor when the reality was that they weren’t healthy and they
didn’t know about it so they assumed they were healthy so if I could have
like one take-home message that hopefully resonates you know for this
podcast and every podcast that we do is take action quickly and soon don’t wait
the common mistake people make is they just wait too long now we’ll we can get
into some of the details about the different forms of lung cancer and stuff
later on but it’s a it’s a very serious type of cancer because if you would look
at it as by itself lung cancer is probably the number one cause of
cancer-related deaths for all people if you to break it down to like men versus
women prostate cancer still causes more deaths in men than lung cancer and
breast cancer causes more deaths in women than lung cancer but when you add
up the deaths from men and women then lung cancer surpasses you know prostate
and breast so it’s a serious cancer because if everyone took action sooner
we could very quickly eliminate that as the number one cause of cancer related
deaths I’m taking a look at some of these statistics that you mentioned
200,000 cases in the United States alone seems just completely out of bounds you
you mentioned that lung cancer specifically is is treatable and and and
people sort of go from I was off you know fit as a fiddle to now i’m in stage
four of any cancer what we’re along that road would you recommend people start
taking a little bit more of an interest in getting tested or getting labs or
seeing a physician and sort of getting the jump on anything that potentially
could go wrong in their health especially lung cancer yes so if you’re
getting you know a yearly our goal a doctor is gonna check your
heart and lungs right they’re gonna hear things and see things that you may not
be aware of that are going on and one of the things that may be consider at the
very beginning let’s say you have lung cancer right now at the very beginning
the minor changes or symptoms that occur they’re not serious enough for you to
take action it’s kind of like oh I just coughed a little bit well I’ve coughed
before and I got over it so coughing isn’t life-threatening per
se but then you didn’t before you didn’t have cancer right before maybe a little
inflammation Airways and time allowed that to clear up or you saw a doctor and
got to treat him but now the second time or third time around you’re coughing and
that could be a sign it’s something more serious than there’s inflammation in
your Airways and so you know normally would say get routine physical
examinations and then the the medical team or group or the doctors that you’re
seeing they should be doing an assessment that looks at your heart and
your lungs looking at your vision and your ears and hearing like the basic
things that sometimes we forget we still need even because they’re so basic we
don’t think they’re important sometimes because we’re all the technologies now
everybody’s looking at the latest gadgets and they forget well if I can’t
see as well as I used to and if I can’t hear as well as I used to
how do I know it’s really aging versus something else is going on in my body
that could be fixed we’re talking with dr. Tom dr. Thomas include um is the
founder and CEO of cause into wellness and the cause into cancer treatment
center in Scottsdale Arizona this is ask dr. Tom and the subject today is lung
cancer now we’ve had an episode about pretty much every other area or common
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three zero zero three zero zero now I mentioned doctor Tom when I when I
introduced the topic here of lung cancer and said that we were going to be
talking about that today I mentioned this real heartbreaking
story that I saw in the headlines and it was shared to us by Lucy on your team
and it’s the story of a newlywed bride she’s left devastated her groom is only
31 and they’re married for four days they’re into their honeymoon and bam out
of nowhere the guy passes away and dies of lung cancer and I haven’t I’ve lost a
glaze over the the article enough to see that you know he wasn’t a smoker and
I’ve heard this before I’m not a smoker I don’t do these you
know I don’t work in a nightclub I don’t work in a cigar lounge I’m not in a in a
bar where there’s lots of smoke how in the world could I be at risk of lung
cancer and yet I even remember in the Andy Kaufman movie the whole theme of
the movie was the guy had lung cancer he didn’t smoke cigarettes so do people
that don’t smoke should they be concerned or should they even be
thinking about lung cancer yes they should so you can get lung cancer
without smoking one of them one of the areas that’s becoming increasingly a
concern is that people that smoke when they breathe out the air from their
lungs which still has some cigarette smoke residue in it it gets into the air
around them and then other people nearby could be breathing in that secondhand
smoke and that secondhand smoke can be damaging to the lungs of the person that
brought it in there’s also things like if you have a family history you know
maybe that if you’re if multiple people in two generations before you had lung
cancer it may be a sign that we have genetically speaking that your lungs are
susceptible to DNA damage which can lead to cancer and we know that there’s
environmental chemicals that there you know we I did we get
exposed to stuff all the time without our knowledge and so there could be
damage that’s being created that we don’t even know about that’s independent
of you know cigarette smoke in the environment the number one risk factor
of course is probably cigarettes so smoking directly but there’s a lot of
other things that can contribute to that which kind of ties into you know well
how do I prevent that type of thing and gets back to eating you know a diet fold
with a lot of colorful fruits and vegetables because there’s protective
chemicals in those foods that can negate the negative consequences of a lot of
the other stuff that we don’t even know about we’re talking with dr. Tom dr.
Thomas include on is the founder and CEO of cause into wellness and the cousin to
cancer treatment center in Scottsdale Arizona where he’s with us live now
we’re taping ask dr. Tom for future podcasts and posts one of the things
that I hear you saying over and over again and are you probably gonna have to
say more you probably can’t say it enough is this concept of eating a wide
variety of colourable colorful fruits and vegetables cause enta and dr. Tom
have put together an amazing really like just wonderfully helpful chart that can
and we got to come up with some sort of a snappy name for it because it’s really
great it’s gonna be available for download at cause Entercom if you would
like a copy of that to help you when you’re making your your shopping
decisions you’re cooking decisions because let me tell you this is always
part of his answer to everything is you’ve got to be doing this for your
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okay this is what I should this is what I should eat it’s very very
helpful we’re talking about lung cancer with dr. Tom and you mentioned the the
differences in the cancer and and lung cancer being maybe the most notorious as
you’re saying that I had images of my mind of men and women that work
professionally in the trades where they’re breathing things in whether it’s
asbestos or just particles that are not good for you
what should those people be doing always and how can they avoid disturbing the
environment of their lungs and keeping themselves at no risk from lung cancer
so if you’re let’s say someone that works an environment where there’s some
type of airborne contaminants you know or pollutants if you will and either a
face shield or a face mask of some kind depending on a type of work
there are even hoods where you’re working with something and those
chemicals are on the other side of a barrier so prevents you from breathing
it in or being exposed to it one of the things I’ll share though and an even
none other group would be we work with a lot of people and like we’ll say
different like special specialty services within the military so whether
they’re seals or black ops or some other type of you know marine army navy
professional and even guys that compete in sharpshooting and firing rifles a lot
of times we’ll meet guys that have extremely high lead levels and they’re
not considering that the bullets or the weapons are firing whether it’s for
target practice or something there’s an off charge or a discharge of like a
resident like a vapor residue in the air and they’re breathing that stuff in and
you don’t see it and so it’s not always so obvious now definitely there’s times
where you’ll see some smoke and now would indicate there’s something there
but normally you’re not paying attention to those things plus after you see it
every day there’s an aspect for people that work in a certain environment every
day where they get desensitized to it so
what I would talk to like welders and I would say yeah when I started I wore
like a protective shield or facemask or something but nobody years you just get
used to it and you stop wearing it because maybe you get sweaty or maybe it
interferes with your vision or something you know an itch is your nose so they
kind of eliminate it for a practical matter but there then increase the
exposure of those pollutants in the air into their lungs and you know because it
takes 10 20 30 years sometimes for that stuff to affect your health it’s not
obviously you know in front of you like hey this is bad
so you what you kind of do is you go to work and you say hey I’m still fine
this is not affecting me so it’s not so glaringly obvious that this could be a
damaging or a threatening lifestyle decision right so so the common I guess
what I would say is wear protective barriers that limit exposure to airborne
pollutants and those protective barriers every between a different standards from
OSHA and all these other groups there’s lots of options that people have they
just have to take advantage of them and use them we’re talking with dr. Tom dr.
Thomas include on is the founder and CEO of cause into wellness and the cause end
to cancer treatment center this is ask dr. Tom and the topic today is lung
cancer it is a killer that has creeped up on people that didn’t even know they
had a problem one of the things that I’ve seen online and I’ve seen and heard
you talk about our small cell and non small cell lung cancers what are the
biggest differences what does that mean and what are the biggest differences
between small cell and non small cell lung cancers sure so the non small cell
lung cancer is represent about 80 to 85% of cases of lung cancer so the remaining
let’s say 15% or give or take would be the small cell lung cancers
so within a non small cell lung cancer is you sort of have three different
types one is an adenocarcinoma the other two one is a squamous cell carcinoma and
a third is a large cell carcinoma the significance of these terms is it helps
oncologists understand the characteristics of that type of cancer
and whether it’s fast growing or slow growing and how it may respond at a
specific type of cancer may respond to different therapies now what I would say
though is that the traditional classifications of lung cancers that is
what you see on let’s say cancer.org from I believe the American Cancer
Society that’s what you see on like the World Health Organization cancer
statistics websites and so those are um those are legitimate sites for current
facts and details but one of limitations with those sites is while they’re
classically correct they’re not fitting for today’s scientific understanding of
cancer so the classical definitions of cancer were based on geography so if I
have cancer in my lungs it’s a lung cancer and if I have cancer let’s say mi
colon its colon cancer and while those those are technically correct the
problem is that has nothing to do with treatment responses and outcomes well we
know today when I say today this is more recent information as of 2017 is that
we’ve we’ve kind of gone through a journey in our understanding of cancer
it used to be that if you had cancer in the lungs okay its lung cancer and you
treat lung cancer this way and at that point there was no real database that
kept track of all the outcomes well now as we keep track of outcomes we find
that many people don’t respond to treatments or therapies that are being
provided for lung cancer so now as labs develop new technologies
for looking at the genetic aspects the genomic aspects the epigenetic aspects
the proteomics aspects of cancer these are fancy words for saying we’re getting
more details about cancer that’s all that really means but as they uncover
these findings what they’re showing is that the geography of the cancer is not
always helpful for treating the cancer meaning we need more information than
just where the cancer is located in order to fight it and beat it these
newer methods now employ looking at proteins that are either inside or on a
cell membrane of the cancer cells and in matching that data or that information
to two different types of treatments and what comes out of that is that now there
may be better ways to fight cancer the problem with that is the standard of
care approaches for fighting cancer or based on older models of diagnosis they
don’t incorporate all the newer data from liquid biopsy techniques and from
all these new genetics and genomics capabilities with fighting cancer so
what I would share with everyone that listens to this is that if you have
cancer and you’re going to any center anywhere in the world you want to ask
them how will you treat the cancer in my body and then you listen to what they
have to say there should be an answer that explains how they would treat you
as a unique individual not as a label not just as a lung cancer case how are
you gonna treat you know if it was maybe how we’re gonna treat Thomas anklet
unslung cancer and then after that question is answered
hopefully it’s satisfying to you the next question you want to answer ask
them is what will you do when that doesn’t work because cancer is not a
single like it’s not a simple disease we do one thing and magic happens it’s
something where it’s more like a chess match you make a move it makes a move
you make another move it makes another move
it’s got cancers all kinds of defense mechanisms so it’s unlikely a single
therapy will work so you need to have multiple therapies employed at the same
time and so if the center your ad doesn’t have answers for how they will
treat your cancer and what will they do when it doesn’t work then you have to
consider is that the best place for you to go for treatment we’re talking with
dr. Tom dr. Thomas include on is the founder and CEO of cousin to wellness
and the cousin to cancer treatment center and this is ask dr. Tom you can
subscribe and download the show at ask dr. Tom calm and today’s topic is lung
cancer I want to ask you about the things to know once you’re diagnosed
before that though I’d like to talk a little bit about have you really talked
about the common symptoms of lung cancer that should not be overlooked
that that might lead somebody to a diagnosis so what are the most common
symptoms of lung cancer that somebody might be experiencing and and should get
some attention so definitely coughing or wheezing chest
pain weight loss those are common things you might see like if you’re in your
saliva if there’s blood in it so and this is specks of blood I’m not talking
about like it’s all red everywhere type of thing because when it first starts
you know these symptoms are gonna be very minimal they’re not glaringly
obvious so yeah I would say you know first you know stage 1 stage 2 stage 3
many of those symptoms are so minimal that people may not even be aware of it
you know like you’re like so here in Arizona it’s very dry and so imagine I
don’t drink enough water today well I’m gonna be coughing because it’s dry air
now people here are used to coughing a lot because it’s dry all the time and
they drink some water in a little while later they’re not coughing so if you’re
used to coughing because of the environment you’re in and now you have
cancer developing you know you wouldn’t realize there’s cancer going on right
because you’re used to coughing anyway so the
the safety valve or you know the checkpoint is if you’re getting routine
examinations by a physician a physician would then say wait a minute
I’m hearing something your lungs I don’t like let’s get a chest x-ray let’s do
some follow-up testing to make sure everything’s okay because you’re better
it’s better to be safe than sorry later on and along those lines you know one of
the things that I was taught years ago by a very forward-thinking mentor he
wanted me to do something and I thought it was very expensive for me to do and
he said well you know yeah you’re gonna spend some more money but what’s the
expense to you of staying trapped at the current level and he gave me an analogy
about oil in your car you know so you say I want to save you know twenty to
forty bucks I’m not gonna put oil in my car now the engine has a problem and you
guys spend thousands of dollars to fix it
you could have avoided that if you just spent your twenty to forty bucks a month
for your oil change or you know however many miles whatever there it might be
but you could have done a routine oil change and prevented that problem when
we look at health many people don’t look at health as an investment health is the
single best investment you can make because it adds years on the end of your
life when you really want them because that’s when your grandkids are there and
you want to spend time playing with them but also increases the quality of your
life at those end years and you know the difference is do you want to be to 80 to
100 year old that’s laying in a hospital bed waiting to die
or do you want to be to 80 to 100 year old that’s still going to the gym and
throwing a football to your great-grandson or you know take in your
your granddaughter somewhere you know to buy a puppy or just like simple things
that we kind of forget about that there’s nothing you know I think it’s
fun to watch you know kids eyes and expressions you know as they see new
things and to be an older individual that could be around to see that that’s
priceless you can’t put a dollar value on that yet how many people would say
well I won’t spend 100 pucks because of the car co-pays with a
doctor I won’t spend 3 grand or providing a mineral testing or something
like this could save your life down the road it’s funny yes we’re talking with
dr. Tom dr. Thomas in Collett on the founder and CEO of cause enta wellness
and the cousin to cancer treatment center in Scottsdale Arizona it’s
interesting to to get people’s perspectives on their health or their
expenses or the things that they will devote their time and attention to and
then the things they won’t it’s some of it seems just like a an obvious
no-brainer but it’s it’s also like what we’re brought up to what were brought up
with and what we get used to and then what we accept and so it sounds like
when it comes to the most common symptoms of lung cancer that shouldn’t
be overlooked they could be confusing because they sort of mask themselves as
just everyday things like anything else if it’s an ongoing thing and if it’s
lingering it’s a pebble in your shoe we should not do what most men for sure do
which is like oh yeah it’s nothing oh yeah it’s nothing and then ignore it for
10 years so assuming that somebody has then gotten a diagnosis of lung cancer
and you know they could be freaking out there in the information gathering stage
whatever it is once diagnosed what are the three most important things for the
patient to know and maybe the family of the patient to know well so um if we
looked at data from American Cancer Society the data is glaringly obvious
that the sooner you detect lung cancer the greater the likelihood that you live
so if we were to look at here’s some stats on five-year survival rates so if
you get if cancer is detected I’m just going to say Stage one technically you
would go stage 1a and 1b but at stage 1 you have a 45 to 49 percent chance of
still being alive in five years with non-small cell lung carcinoma which
stage two it’s 30 or 31 percent so it starts to go down I mean
more people are gonna not make it if at stage three it drops to five to fourteen
percent and at Stage four it is 1% so once you’re diagnosed with lung cancer
at Stage four the likelihood of you being dead is 99
percent in five years so what we take out of all this the take-home message is
early detection early detection early detection now that’s that’s the overall
statement but what I would add to that is take action one of the big which you
know one of the big let’s say mistakes I see people make is to get diagnosed with
cancer and they’re overwhelmed and that’s not a mistake on their part this
is just so many foreign words and languages coming at you it’s medical
jargon that doesn’t make sense and it’s who came up with this term it doesn’t
know so always fit and it’s it’s like learning a new language and you’re
pressured to learn it quickly well now when you go on
most people will Google or little search on bang for the put in the cancer
diagnosis to kind of get a better understanding the next thing they do is
they put in a name of the cancer and then the word treatment and up comes all
this misinformation about what to do so they get further confused and then when
they go what you’ll see is major cancer centers right now will promote that they
do all kinds of alternative and complementary medicine but once you walk
through their doors they do standard of care medicine and a problem is they
never took the time to see if that’s the best fit for you and in their models in
house is that once you fail chemotherapy and radiation and so forth then it may
try something else so what that means is you got to be near death before they’re
gonna do something now let’s look at the alternative medicine world when you go
there guys are throwing vitamin C in you and all kinds of stuff telling you it’s
gonna fight cancer when they don’t even know your vitamin C status they don’t
even know if you need vitamin C so that would be the equivalent of me saying hey
put oil in your car when you don’t even need oil that would
make no sense and yet people have more logic for their car than they do for
their own health so they don’t ask the right questions like why are you putting
this drug into my body how do you know that will kill my cancer cells why you
putting this vitamin C in my body how do you know it’s gonna kill my cancer cells
they just kind of go with the flow and then they don’t they don’t say where’s
the results you know within a week a month two months there should be
something you know blood tests showing his improvements or scans showing his
improvements we see people come in that after two years have had no scans no
testing of any kind and I think that’s a horrible experience for them how could
you go to any medical center and no one’s monitoring you so in terms of the
three you know most important things to know is that you don’t get a second
chance with lung cancer you have to take action quickly and the best action is to
do early detection which is you see a doctor once a year make sure to listen
to your lungs and finding out if there’s anything going on and if they recommend
a chest x-ray you go get it done and then once you find there is a problem
you don’t wait you don’t take weeks to make a decision you figure out right
away where I need to go and what I need to do because that increases the
likelihood that you survive he’s dr. Tom dr. Thomas includin the founder and CEO
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that we ever discuss because obviously it makes sense and it’s a great thing to
do I wonder as we’re talking dr. Tom about lung cancer is there any benefit
does it make any sense for people to be doing breathing exercises or just
exercises in general that increase their good breathing like swimming and running
and things like that does that aid in anything so that that’s an excellent
question because there’s two ways I could address that so first I’ll address
it from a circulation perspective all movement is better than any non movement
right so if you sit on the couch that’s the fastest way to die if you move more
it’s the fastest way it’s an easy way to fight you know the negative consequences
of all cancers now in terms of should you focus on breathing more and I that’s
a little more complicated and the reason why I say that is if let’s say the
cancer has metastasized and damage the lungs to a point where work could cause
additional fibrosis of scarring that may not be the best option initially we may
want to look at other forms of exercise and we could do like for example we can
do an occlusion band we could put a tourniquet on someone’s arm and a from
doing gripping exercises those gripping exercise has just challenged them
locally but the increase all kinds of hormones and anabolic signals to
stimulate clearing out of glucose and clearing out a cholesterol and getting
rid of inflammation and yet it doesn’t evolve more work on the lungs
let’s say now there was no damage to lungs then we use a lot of breathing
exercises with our patients to improve brain function so for people that have
never had a neurological evaluation the doctors in our clinic look at things
that their standard like a neurologist knows this stuff and his or her sleep
but for everybody else in the world it’s not common stuff and there’s standard
tools like you stand with your feet together and your palms forward they
call it Romberg stance and then they have one foot in front of other to call
a staggered Romberg’s position or stance so typically neurologists would do that
and it usually done for people with Parkinson’s Alzheimer’s or some sort of
head injury things like that it’s often not done for people with cancer it’s
usually not done for anyone that’s gone through chemotherapy and the the part
about that that’s a concern is that many times people have changes in their brain
that are ignored because simply no one knew it happened so just like you know
you have problems with your lungs that you don’t know about so your lung cancer
develops worse but you don’t feel it people have gone through chemotherapy or
people have different types of cancers including lung cancer it can affect
higher regions of the brain but they don’t know about it so it gets ignored
so we evaluate those areas and we actually may do breathing exercises
because it helps reduce pain it helps improve quality of motion it helps
people to get rid of reverse certain symptoms from chemotherapy like
neuropathies and their feet or in their hands so it’s a great way to help your
brain connect to the rest of your body is through breathing exercises but
normally we would make sure there’s no physical damage in the lungs that could
be exacerbated before we would move into that direction we’re talking with dr.
Tom this is ask dr. Tom you can download and subscribe to the ass dr. Tom show at
ask dr. Tom com today’s topic is lung cancer and we’ve
talked about how dangerous it is especially when it’s creeping up on
people like that story we read the Daily Mail which we’ll get into in a
little bit more detail coming up dr. Tom why is lung cancer the number one cause
of cancer death you mentioned it as it relates to breast cancer and prostate
cancer which in the in the sexes is number one but collectively this this
lung cancer is such a phenomena share some thoughts I have about that then I
don’t know are necessarily scientific facts but on a statistics I’d like the
stuff that we know it’s true we think it’s it’s such a leading cause of death
because there’s so many symptoms that are so below our detection threshold
like by the time we feel something really serious and and say hey I better
see a doctor it’s pretty far advanced and so it’s hard to know if there’s
something going on at stage 1 or stage 2 or stage 3 and if something happens it’s
maybe intermittent or sporadic so you don’t realize hey there’s something
really going on because it shows up and it doesn’t show up type of experience
but if we look at how lung cancer like who gets lung cancer around the world it
tends to occur mostly in people that’s deer that smoke tobacco and mostly in
lower socioeconomic segments of the population and my speculation is that I
think that tobacco companies have targeted different regions around the
world to say hey look here you know cigarette smoking is cool and good and
something you know it gives a certain message where we know that the more
times people see a message then the more likely their brain recognizes that
message a safe and okay in fact and so then if you see everybody around you
smoking then it’s more likely to be a cool thing that you do the aspects about
that though and those lower socioeconomic levels there’s not access
to quality health care you know yeah there’s not like a hospital or a
doctor’s office nearby said if you’re coughing you can go see it and
typically at societies where people are working so hard they can’t afford to
take time off from work to go to a doctor even if there was an office right
there so winds up happening is that you get
lots of people that have an issue and for one reason or another they’re not
able to pursue appropriate care or appropriate diagnosis and so it’s going
to progress and then it’s going to get really bad and then by the time they do
get to a doctor that could help them it’s going to be too late so that’s a
one of the reasons why I think it’s a number one leading cause of
cancer-related deaths around the world this is ask dr. tom with dr. Thomas
inquit on the founder and CEO of cause into wellness and the cause enta cancer
treatment center in Scottsdale Arizona and today’s episode is all about lung
cancer which is it seems to be creeping up on people this is not a fun story but
there was an article in The Daily Mail and we’ll put a link to this article in
the comments on Facebook and underneath the post here but it’s an article about
a newlywed couple and they’re not old they’re you know 31 years old they’re on
their honeymoon and the guy goes in for some sort of a pain or some sort of
problem and four days later he’s dead from lung cancer it you know it we live
in this world of fake news and fake stories and salacious cliques and all
that sort of stuff dr. tom is it possible for someone to die of lung
cancer without even knowing that they had it is that even real yes absolutely
and I could tell you that even independent of that news story we see
this all the time we’ve had I can’t tell you how many times people are scheduled
to come in for like hey something’s wrong and I want to come in and see you
guys because no one else has been able to figure out what’s going on inside of
me and they’re like oh my schedule is busy and let’s say it’s June you know
like how about I’ll schedule to visit you guys and
tambour so it’s not really that far away and then come close to September we get
a call from the family that the person I was coming in passed away and they died
suddenly and unexpectedly and I wind up finding out that they had cancer or
heart disease or something else that’s you know a threat to one’s health or
life and they just didn’t have the well they either didn’t have symptoms serious
enough to register you know and their mental radar so to speak or they just
maybe they didn’t ignored it you know one of the things I see a lot
of times I see a lot of so I see a lot of stereotypical families where you know
the mother and father are working so hard so they can afford to pay for their
kids you know doing sports in school and other let’s say extra scholastic
activities or even paying for their children to go to private schools or
something like that and because they’re working so hard when they have a problem
they just dismiss it as well I’m overworked you know I’m stressed out
whether it’s to pay bills and do other things and they’re not looking at it
that this could be a sign something you know serious is going on and of course
you know if you wait too long with anything it just gets worse it doesn’t
get better so the short answer is absolutely yes it’s possible to have
something that advanced with lung cancer and then you know not know about it till
it’s too late but the other thing too is you know in this particular case an
individual you know getting ready to get married you know you’re kind of forward
thinking you’re thinking about your life ahead you’re thinking about you know
spending time with your loved one you’re not necessarily thinking about you know
hey this my chest hurts or hey I’m coughing you know it’s a different sort
of mindset in that phase of your life this is the ask dr. Tom show ask dr. Tom
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the story about this this poor couple and and this man that died of lung
cancer out of the blue on his honeymoon and doctor Tom you started to discover
that there are many others that we don’t necessarily think of that have passed
away from lung cancer and certainly when they’re in the public eye it’s uh
propped to the public because we may not know about a struggle but you stumbled
upon quite a few people big names in fact that have had lung cancer issues
yes so one of the things that I think was a challenge for me is that um when
we talk about lung cancer with patients a lot of them seem to not be aware of
how like it’s a pretty big disease like just on its own forget about cancer it’s
a lot of deaths around the world and so sometimes in order to kind of share with
let’s say people at large like you know this is affected like celebrities and
people we’ve seen on TV and stuff over the years it’s not like a recent thing
so what I did is I did some digging up of different people that have died from
lung cancer because I wanted just to kind of increase awareness that this is
something that’s been going on for a long time and it seems like the rates
are getting like they’re increasing and so give you just some quick a short list
I don’t mean this to be all-inclusive or anything but Peter Jennings he was the
ABC news anchor and I could I if you asked me last time
I saw on TV I probably would’ve told you last year right because in my mind I
just remember seeing that guy every night on TV and then as I was reading
this and double-checking some things he passed away from lung cancer in 2005 so
that’s like a 13 year span that’s gone by and you know it’s just just as what’s
amazing to me is how quickly time is flying by and how many people so just
some other names dana reeve that was the wife of Christopher Reeve and then Walt
Disney who everybody knows from Disney Land Disney World Paul Newman that’s
what Walt Disney well Disney I mean in and he was only 65 oh yeah Paul Newman
you know there’s a Claude Monet the famous artist Monet and that was I
believe in like the 1800s right so that was you know so this is not like only
recently people or we know a Dyne of lung cancer George Harrison you know one
of the Beatles and there’s you mentioned earlier the taxi actor Andy Kaufman yeah
so there’s some I’m sure there’s lots of other people and I don’t mean to do
anyone any disservice by not mentioning their name but you know what I want what
I’m hoping this will do is increase awareness that you know even famous
people don’t know they have lung cancer right until it’s too late so and they
have access to a lot of resources more resources that many of us have access to
so it kind of puts a little bit of a burden of responsibility and hopefully
some accountability to every human being to be responsible and accountable to
themselves that hey if you got a family make sure you’re to getting a check-up
so that you could be alive to be with your family in the future because if
you’re ignoring things or missing things you know that it only allows bad stuff
to get worse over time and doesn’t allow you to address the bad stuff well and
you take a look at a guy like Walt Disney for exam
Paul Newman was 83 years old today 83 especially if you were taking dr. Tom’s
advice and you’re eating the right things and taking care of yourself you
can live for another 10 years potentially and have another 10 good
years from 83 but Walt Disney was only 65
I mean think of the think of what he did in those first 65 years in fact what he
accomplished really probably didn’t happen until like the last 30 or 20 that
guy could have used an extra 10 or 20 or 30 years and we could – and all’s it
takes is a little bit of early detection I want to ask you about vaping in lung
cancer but before I do that because that’s a hot topic and we see these vape
shops all over the place this is ask dr. Tom with dr. Thomason Clayton and dr.
tom is the founder and CEO of cos n2 Wellness and the cause n2 cancer
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like nowhere should you physically be on site or hey should you be at home one of
the things that people don’t think about is a lot of treatments interfere with
your ability to earn a living and you know if you’re if you’re the sole income
earner or if you’re one of the income earners for your family and all sudden
the treatment interferes with your ability to you know go to work and earn
a living to provide you know paying for rent for your house or mortgage payment
or food or whatever it is that’s that may be a good fit right because now you
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overseas down under wherever they are wherever you are it doesn’t have to
start with a trip to cousin – is that correct I mean a lot of this initially
can be done virtually until or unless it’s it’s determined that they should
come they’re not everybody has to come there is that accurate
yeah we can do a lot of stuff by telephone initially we can arrange you
get tested locally we have you know national accounts with labs so you can
go somewhere near I usually we can get a lot of it done by
the telephone and then you know just keep things rolling from there and then
for many people it’s a great fit so that they could save on some of the expenses
for our travel we’re talking with dr. Tom dr. Thomas in Clayton and he’s the
founder of cause unto cancer treatment center in Scottsdale Arizona and today’s
topic is lung cancer it’s a pretty heavy topic as you could see I mean when you
look at Walt Disney and George Harrison and then this this poor newlywed that
boom four days into his honeymoon passes away from lung cancer and didn’t even
know it was coming wasn’t a smoker didn’t have a high risk behavior that we
know about it’s it’s a dangerous dangerous cancer dr. Tom how does vaping
and lung cancer correlate if at all I see vape shops on virtually every corner
in in every town I mean here in Chicago there is one about every three miles and
I see people doing it in their cars and I just wonder I know that there are not
the same things as in a cigarette but is there anything to be concerned
about if you or someone you love is is vaping so there was a study that was
done that showed that the elements or the components in a vaping smoke could
cause DNA damage and then from that the scientists involved the researcher said
it could increase the likelihood of cancer or could result in damage that
leads to cancer and so there was a lot of different websites promoting hey
vaping might cause cancer so if you take a look at the actual study design the
study was done in a way where there was a collection of cells
sund’ys were animal in human cells so they’re outside the human body and the
chemicals were exposed to cells in a concentrated fashion and then DNA damage
was discovered the challenge would extrapolate out to
humans though is that there’s a lot of barriers right that we have a skin
barrier we have different we have mucus and other substances in our lungs that
can actually collect some of those chemicals so whether or not in a human
that type of conveying cause cancer it’s not clear from that study it’s a big
it’s al it’s a lot of conceptual leaps that have to be taken to say that so
what I would smile right now is I don’t see any hard core evidence that vaping
can cause cancer but I would then say though why do people need to vape at all
independent of whether it causes cancer like the goal is to not smoke or put
anything into your lungs right that that’s the goal and so if you said hey I
have this addiction a cigarette smoking or this bad habit November you want to
say I’m doing vaping as a transition tool that’s one option but I would then
say you know what there’s all kinds of natural strategies for some people
acupuncture helps them to quit smoking and you took in a few sessions and
you’re done so then you’re not even you know
exposing yourself to vaping at all and it may actually be cheaper in the long
run there’s also all kinds of homeopathic preparations I’ve seen
firsthand work with all kinds of people when they literally tell me it was
really crazy I put a few drops into my tongue and I don’t crave cigarettes at
all so I was never a smoker I never desire to put anything you know any type
of cigarette or tobacco of any kind so I don’t know what it’s like to you know
desire that type of stuff I know for some people it’s a pretty strong desire
and so what I just would like them to know is there’s lots of options to break
that habit so vaping is one but there’s got to be a game plan like you know when
a vape for three weeks and be done with it you know it can’t just be I’m gonna
vape forever because then you’re really not changing the behavior you’re just
substituting a different tool and place of what you were doing before good stuff
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we missed or anything you’d like to add about lung cancer or cancer in general
before we say goodbye to to you for this episode yes thank you for asking one of
the things that I keep seeing over and over again is people find out they have
some form of cancer diagnosis and then they’ll say something like well I don’t
feel anything and they used it as a reason for not taking action right now
and you know you don’t want to rush into something that you don’t know what’s
going to help you but once you have a game plan like hey I have a way of
fighting this terrible disease what I’m seeing is people are waiting and then
what they do is they wait two weeks or two months so now all of a sudden ago I
can’t walk or I can’t move I can’t go to the bathroom or hey my McCants are
spread and it’s now Stage four and then I go hey I want to do something right
away and then I’m like why did you wait two months and what they always say is
well I didn’t feel anything and I’m like but you never felt the cancer growing so
that tells you how you feel is not good enough to assess when to take action
so why not you know some my advice that would tell everyone in the world is once
you know what’s good what you know you have a diagnosis of cancer find out a
center you know ideally a center that’s closer to you rikes then you have the
resources locally but lots of people are telling us is they don’t have those
resources near them that we offer at our Center so if you come here we’re gonna
tell you here’s how would help you and here’s we’re going to do when it
doesn’t work because we have backup plans and contingencies to help you
let’s get started immediately because we know the sooner you start the greater
likelihood you live the longer you wait the greater likelihood you die I mean
just look at the data we talked about earlier in this particular show that at
five-year mark for people that wait until it stage for 99% are dead in five
years whereas if at stage one fifty percent or so or alive right so where do
you want to be the stage one guy taking action or stage four guy taking action
and a problem is what you don’t see that data is it’s way more expensive to wait
at Stage four and take action even when you have insurance people are said and
shown us to do B’s they have over four hundred thousand dollars in bills
because they waited to that point to then do something and insurance does not
cover everything it has caps as limitations on what it will cover and it
only covers things that are FDA approves after something you need it’s not FDA
approved you’re on your own so rather than waiting until it’s too late and
then get in socked left and right when these expensive bills I would say do it
sooner and save yourself some money and increase the likelihood that you’re
going to live well set well said by doctor Tom it’s it couldn’t be more
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we’ll see you next time dr. Tom thanks so much thanks Matt so if you or a loved
one has been diagnosed with cancer and you’re looking to get help I strongly
encourage you to go to cause Entercom and fill out the form at the bottom of
the page and find out for yourself how we can help you you know after working with a lot of
athletes over the years and dealing with health issues and injuries and seeing
how they approach their health we learned a lot does it make sense that
everyone is saying the same thing where’s the unique approach where’s the
difference differences in how to look at a human being and suggest something
different that might help them this is a very individualized customized type of
treatment this is not going to be the same thing every day this is not cookie
cutter this is not about having a plan in place before you ever get here just
based on your label we’re working with patients it should be a patient-centered
model so the patient’s best interests are at heart this is not a
one-size-fits-all this is you come in we measure all aspects that we can possibly
measure and then we customize and tailor it directly for you and we’re constantly
looking at what is the latest most efficacious or effective way of treating
those disease states I love working for cause enta because I see myself as a
cutting-edge physical therapist and cause enta has all the world’s greatest
technology under one roof I’ve been told that there’s nothing they can do and
ultimately they have exhausted their options at that same time within 24
hours our staff our doctors come together and come up with a plan for
that same person to me it’s a very personal relationship and I have been
given the gift and the power and the wisdom to help them and there’s no
better length and we look for elements in the people that we hire that will
translate out to a better patient experience when they walk through the
door so we don’t really even see the patients as patient they’re their
families is life there is newness going on in Co
senta that is forward thinking and I’m telling you what this is probably the
most exciting thing you’ll ever see it’s about facilitating an environment
of learning and it’s learning for the patient it’s learning for the patient’s
body it’s learning for the patient’s environment this is more about being
part of a system that’s very much invested with each individual my name is
Jennifer Grantham my name is David Schultz I am Larry Hellman I’m dr.
Stephen iacoboni my name is dr. Matthew Zanna
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